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by , 12-08-2011 at 12:55 PM (1916 Views)
This will probably never get posted - but - here goes anyway...
It is my opinion that Windows 7 SUCKS...!!! Virtually everything I've tried to do with this new system has been a serious fight (new Dell computer / Windows 7 - was using Windows XP). Hardly any of my "old" (read - FAMILIAR) software works like it should. Particularly irritating is not being able to use Microsoft Office 2000. AND - to add insult to injury, whenever I try to get help... Microsoft tells me I need to speak to Dell (or pay money for their assistance - whatever...). If I call or try to communicate via instant message with Dell - I get someone to whom English is for certain a second language - and get nowhere fast. So - here's what I have to say - If you are considering an upgrade to Windows 7 or a Dell computer... DON'T DO IT..!!!
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  1. Trouble's Avatar
    Sure it will and has been posted. All opinions are respected here. Even if they are a bit negative.
    Very sorry to here that you are having trouble with your new PC and Operating System and I would be the first to admit that the learning curve from XP to Windows 7 can be a bit steep.
    If you have some specific problems and associated questions please use the appropriate sub-forum under the help and support area and we might be able to help you address them.
    Good luck and best wishes
    Randy
  2. Trouble's Avatar
    Particularly irritating is not being able to use Microsoft Office 2000
    Additionally and just as a heads-up FYI type of thing. Office 2000 runs fine on windows 7. I personally have it running on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and have tested the various components (Word, Excel, Access, Power Point, etc.,)
    The only issue is with Outlook 2000 (wab32.dll and wabres32.dll) and even those can be overcome by configuring it to run in Corporate / WorkGroup mode, although you might want to consider adopting a mail client a bit more current, even Live Mail is a bit better than that old clunker. Just an opinion.
    My suspicion is that you may have encountered problems due to the presence of either a trial or promo version of a newer Office product installed on your machine (especially if it's a 64bit version) you'll likely need to get rid of that if you really want to use Office 2000 on your Windows 7 PC.
    You really should venture out into the forums help and support area and see if people have some helpful suggestions to overcome what you perceive as Windows 7's shortcomings.
    Regards
    Randy
  3. Elmer's Avatar
    Did your Dell machine come with a version of Office 2010 trial installed? Remnants of this may be causing problems. Try running the "fixit" from here: How to uninstall or remove Microsoft Office 2010 suites
  4. Drew's Avatar
    If it makes you feel any better... most of my clients over the years have had problems w/ HPs & Dells...part of the reason I don't sell or recommend either.

    7 is a really good OS. Yes, we'd certainly be glad to help w/ specific issues.

    I presume to migration from XP to 7 was done as a clean, "Custom Install" (??)

    Drew
  5. bybrenda's Avatar
    Everything is incompatible...and for a fee you can take your chances with the upgrade compatibility for an additional $89...doubtful that will work.

    When replacing my computer I didn't realize that I would have to replace all my hardware and software to run on Windows 7. SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING A MAC AT THIS POINT.

    Cant run my Adobe programs without making a $2,000 + purchase, my Macromedia programs act stupid, my all in one is incompatible and networking with multiple operating systems HAS NOT WORKED.

    Very disappointed in Microsoft, they have all but put me out of business with this upgrade. They have decided all on their own after our being loyal Windows users that we all need to upgrade our hardware and software in order to use their product.

    SICK TO DEATH WITH MICROSOFT.
  6. Elmer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by bybrenda
    Everything is incompatible...and for a fee you can take your chances with the upgrade compatibility for an additional $89...doubtful that will work.

    When replacing my computer I didn't realize that I would have to replace all my hardware and software to run on Windows 7. SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING A MAC AT THIS POINT.

    Cant run my Adobe programs without making a $2,000 + purchase, my Macromedia programs act stupid, my all in one is incompatible and networking with multiple operating systems HAS NOT WORKED.

    Very disappointed in Microsoft, they have all but put me out of business with this upgrade. They have decided all on their own after our being loyal Windows users that we all need to upgrade our hardware and software in order to use their product.

    SICK TO DEATH WITH MICROSOFT.
    All my Adobe works just Dandy. Just need to install them correctly.

    Networking? Needs setting up properly.

    As always the main problem is the one reflected in the monitor screen.
  7. john3347's Avatar
    I repeatedly had difficulty trying to run older 32 bit applications on Windows 7 64 bit. In spite of what many "experts" will will tell you, 32 bit applications just do not run well on a 64 bit Operating System on any computer I have seen this tried on. My own computers and friend's as well. When a friend tells me that they got a new computer with Windows 7 and this and that application do "crazy" stuff, they just told me that they are trying to run an older 32 bit application and their bright shiny new Windows 7 computer is a 64 bit machine. I don't touch a 64 bit operating system as long as I am using 32 bit applications.
  8. Trouble's Avatar
    Can't really argue with that John, I remember having some real problems with some of my wife's old card, puzzle and casino games when I updated and upgraded her to a 64 bit machine and Win7 64. But I don't really think that it has as much to do with Windows 7 (64bit) as it does with how the apps (in this case games were coded) if compatibility mode and run as administrator doesn't get you over the problem and there are not updates or patches for the applications then it's likely time to look for replacements.
    More than half (probably way more) the apps I am running on my machine currently are 32 bit programs and they work fine on my Windows 7 64bit machine. There are not a lot of 64 bit applications out there currently, so I suspect a lot of us are running plenty of 32 bit applications daily and not giving it a seconds thought.
  9. Dangaioh's Avatar
    My dad has a Dell system, running Windows 7 64bit edition, and everything is running fine... yes, even those pesky 32 bit programs.

    I just needed to get rid of 3rd party bloatware w/in the Dell system before my dad could use his PC and install/run some of his old 32bit programs as "XP", with admin privileges... and so far no issues at all.

    As Trouble mentioned (paraphrasing), "lots of us are probably running 32 bit apps, and not giving it a second thought".
  10. sirloyne's Avatar
    I don't know if it's really fair to blame microsoft for old software not working, but if you wanted to say windows 7 sucks because the search feature sucks compared to xp, because you can't sort large numbes of folders alphabetically like xp, because of media player 12 which sucks compared to 10 for xp, because sharing you entire "c" driver is awful compared to xp... iI could go on but break is up. Let's face it... compared to xp windows 7 really really sucks.
  11. Drew's Avatar
    Guess, in that case, we better hope this Win8 doesn't "suck", what w/ XP in its fading away phase, now & all.

    Drew
  12. sirloyne's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Drew
    Guess, in that case, we better hope this Win8 doesn't "suck", what w/ XP in its fading away phase, now & all. Drew
    Thankfully I still have my XP cd, so it won't be fading away any time too soon for me. You can call me old-fashioned, but I like to be able to organize, find and share my folders and files easily... 3 things 7 fails miserably at. If people really like 7 better, just tell my why. What can you do faster and easier on 7 than XP? And don't give me the "it's more secure" line. When was the last time anyone, who has a decent firewall and anti-virus, had any problems at all with XP? Since you still need those with 7, 7 isn't anymore secure. So come on... tell me... what makes 7 better?
  13. Dangaioh's Avatar
    For some odd reason in Windows7...


    • I am able to sort large number of folders and files alphabetically, and sorted by group, date, and type.
    • Find files.
    • Media player 12 is actually quite good, ofcourse there is always WinAmp and iTunes (ugh, now that's a program that doesn't tend to keep all music album/file types together).
    • I don't have to share my drives and media files.
    • I can still run 32bit programs on my 64bit Windows 7 OS, though I do wish I can run 16bit w/out the use of XP mode... but oh well, I can live with that, since I hardly use them.
    • I don't have the troublesome breakdowns that I usually find on XP.
    • I am running AVG internet security suite, Malware bytes, and other recommended programs to keep my system safe.
    • Adobe CS4 products running just fine.


    In essence, Windows 7 does not suck.
  14. sirloyne's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dangaioh
    For some odd reason in Windows7...
    • I am able to sort large number of folders and files alphabetically, and sorted by group, date, and type.
    • Find files.
    • Media player 12 is actually quite good, ofcourse there is always WinAmp and iTunes (ugh, now that's a program that doesn't tend to keep all music album/file types together).
    • I don't have to share my drives and media files.
    • I can still run 32bit programs on my 64bit Windows 7 OS, though I do wish I can run 16bit w/out the use of XP mode... but oh well, I can live with that, since I hardly use them.
    • I don't have the troublesome breakdowns that I usually find on XP.
    • I am running AVG internet security suite, Malware bytes, and other recommended programs to keep my system safe.
    • Adobe CS4 products running just fine.

    In essence, Windows 7 does not suck.
    I mean sorting by letters of the alphabet... the "A" bands under A, the "B" bands under B..., not in 3 gigantic chunks, a-h, i-p and q-z. That's useless for more than 10 folders. I have over 600. I was at work and wanted to listen to an album on my hard drive, I use a laptop as my mp3 player. I couldn't remember the full name of the album or the band, but the word "Rubicon" was in the title. I did a search, just now in fact, when I got home, to compare. Windows XP found the "Crossing The Rubicon" folder in the band "The Sounds" folder in 9.5 seconds. It took Windows 7 3 minutes 20.75 seconds. You seem like the type to make the argument that at least 7 found the folder, and it did... it just took 22x longer. Media Player 12 is terrible. There's no arguing that, especially compared to 10 for XP. I don't use either... I use FooBar. The fact that you don't share files and folders between computers can hardly be considered an argument against 7 being terrible at it. (ex. I never drove a Ford Pinto, ipso facto, the Ford Pinto was the greatest car ever made.) I never have "troublesome breakdowns" (whatever that is) with XP. It never crashes, blue screens, locks up or anything in any way that could call it less that perfectly stable. Regarding you having anti-virus and anti-malware installed... so what? What's your point? That 7 is so secure you need all that stuff just like with XP? Not a very good argument. CS4 runs on XP. None of this proves 7 doesn't suck. (ps. there were supposed to be spaces between points, but the only way I could get this page to load was turning off Java in Firefox, so now there's no gaps. Maybe this page was designed on 7... that would explain a lot.)
    Updated 03-30-2012 at 06:54 PM by sirloyne
  15. Dangaioh's Avatar
    You do realize there are other options to music players for the Windows OS, you are not limited to WMP... besides Foobar, you could use iTunes as an alternative to help organize your library from the player menu, though organizing by file (under Apple's music file structure) will be a headache.

    Regards to searching feature of Windows 7. I decided to do a search on my system for a music file, video file and images and took less than 3 seconds to locate said files, and that's with search index disabled... and run a 2nd test on another PC, again no slowdowns. (No suck there).

    Sharing files/folder is an option within Windows 7, you stated that you have to share your entire 'c' drive... just create a folder, set for sharing. Better yet, if you want to share a folder/drive without the Windows style setup, you can always use a portable drive and a wireless/wired router (similar to the DIR655 from D-Link), or just get a network drive. (No suck there).

    Like Win 7, XP still crashes and crashes harder. Also, I didn't say that Windows 7 is the most secure, I stated safe on my system, (don't know about other end users PC habit). Blind faith in any program to keep your system infection free is pretty much asking for trouble... due diligence is also required. Yes, Windows 7 is by far stable, than your XP... especially with hardware addons through expansion slots, 7 does a better job at plug and play (no suck there), than XPs plug and pray (which sucks).

    Regards to the bullet points, it's a CMS add on issue.

    After reading and rereading your post, it seems that it's a feature issue (in this case lack of) in Windows7 you hated, which still does not signify that Windows7 sucks. BTW, there are a couple of 3rd party file managers out there for use if you don't like MS way of doing things. (No suck there, since alternatives are available).

    Since most of the posts is an opinionated view of certain feature(s) that you disdain for not having, you haven't stated anything, that makes Windows 7 suck... in essence, just 'rocks'.
    Updated 03-30-2012 at 08:20 PM by Dangaioh
  16. sirloyne's Avatar
    "You do realize there are other options to music players for the Windows OS, you are not limited to WMP... besides Foobar, you could use iTunes as an alternative..."
    I'm happy with Foobar. iTunes... do I sound like a masochist? My point is WMP 12 is awful.

    "Regards to searching feature of Windows 7. I decided to do a search on my system for a music file, video file and images and took less than 3 seconds to locate said files, and that's with search index disabled... and run a 2nd test on another PC, again no slowdowns. (No suck there)"
    Did you put a picture in your My Pictures folder and then search for it by its full name? I bet you did. You really need to recreate my situation. Partition your hard drive, make a 300gb "D" drive, make a folder called "Music", add around 500 "artist" folders and mix in around 2000 sub-folders between them. Then do a search based on the last word of a 3 word title, and all 3 words need to be different. Big suck there.

    "Sharing files/folder is an option within Windows 7, you stated that you have to share your entire 'c' drive... just create a folder, set for sharing. Better yet, if you want to share a folder/drive without the Windows style setup, you can always use a portable drive and a wireless/wired router (similar to the DIR655 from D-Link), or just get a network drive. (No suck there)"
    Look at at the extra steps you need to do in 7. With XP I just r.click my "C" drive pick sharing, check the "share this folder" box and I'm done. You might want to go back and look at your options for 7. Trust me... big suck there.

    "Like Win 7, XP still crashes and crashes harder."
    You did read me saying my XP never, never, never, never crashes. Ever. I'm beginning to think that the only people who have a problem with XP crashing is people who don't know what they're doing.

    "Yes, Windows 7 is by far stable, than your XP... especially with hardware addons through expansion slots"
    Never, never, never, never crashes.

    "7 does a better job at plug and play (no suck there), than XPs plug and pray (which sucks)"
    I have never had a problem with XPs plug and play. I must be the luckiest guy on Earth, because I've never seen any of the horrors you keep describing.

    "After reading and rereading your post, it seems that it's a feature issue (in this case lack of) in Windows7 you hated, which still does not signify that Windows7 sucks. BTW, there are a couple of 3rd party file managers out there for use if you don't like MS way of doing things. (No suck there, since alternatives are available)."
    So your saying that, even though 7 is like 4x bigger than XP... and it does less than XP... it doesn't suck because you can always just install even more software to make it do almost as much as XP? You really think that? Really?

    "Since most of the posts is an opinionated view of certain feature(s) that you disdain for not having, you haven't stated anything, that makes Windows 7 suck... in essence, just 'rocks'."
    So that fact that I can point out things that XP can do that 7 can't, things that it's easier to do on XP than 7, things that are better on XP than 7 means nothing? Those are just opinions? "Don't tell me how it's a hundred times easier to share files on XP", you say, "the fact that that's a fact is just an opinion!" You sir, are a very confused individual... and that's a fact.

    ps by blocking "translate.googleapis.com" by adding it to my host file let this page load.
    Updated 03-31-2012 at 09:59 AM by sirloyne
  17. Dangaioh's Avatar
    I'm happy with Foobar. iTunes... do I sound like a masochist? My point is WMP 12 is awful.

    No argument from me on this.

    Did you put a picture in your My Pictures folder and then search for it by its full name? I bet you did. You really need to recreate my situation. Partition your hard drive, make a 300gb "D" drive, make a folder called "Music", add around 500 "artist" folders and mix in around 2000 sub-folders between them. Then do a search based on the last word of a 3 word title, and all 3 words need to be different. Big suck there.

    I don't need to place them in one folder, all images and appropriate files are placed in the appropriately named sub folders of my choice, in several main folders. This seems to be more of a filing method of the end user and possible filing method of music player of choice, than Windows7. No suck there.

    Look at at the extra steps you need to do in 7. With XP I just r.click my "C" drive pick sharing, check the "share this folder" box and I'm done. You might want to go back and look at your options for 7. Trust me... big suck there.

    Lookie here in windows7, right click, share folder in 3 steps.... whoopdeedoo, No suck there... and better yet, advanced settings to share a folder over the network with administrative-esque control. No suck there (twice).

    You did read me saying my XP never, never, never, never crashes. Ever. I'm beginning to think that the only people who have a problem with XP crashing is people who don't know what they're doing.

    And this statement reads like a true fan boi, with blind reliance on an OS. Sorry, they do crash, even with proper usage and protection with the best intentions of the end user.

    Never, never, never, never crashes... I have never had a problem with XPs plug and play. I must be the luckiest guy on Earth, because I've never seen any of the horrors you keep describing.

    Well, then that means I must be luckiest guy on earth, when I install my hardware on Windows7.

    So your saying that, even though 7 is like 4x bigger than XP... and it does less than XP... it doesn't suck because you can always just install even more software to make it do almost as much as XP? You really think that? Really?

    Did, I state it was 4x bigger??? I quote: "it seems that it's a feature issue (in this case lack of) in Windows7 you hated, which still does not signify that Windows7 sucks." The ability to enhance an OS from 3rd party has always been around since 95 (probably even before), it's your choice to use them.

    So that fact that I can point out things that XP can do that 7 can't, things that it's easier to do on XP than 7, things that are better on XP than 7 means nothing? Those are just opinions? "Don't tell me how it's a hundred times easier to share files on XP", you say, "the fact that that's a fact is just an opinion!"

    It's a point of view of your perception that XP is better, never a fact. Yes, and I will tell, that it's a over 9000 (better than a hundred) times better to share files over Windows 7, than XP.

    You sir, are a very confused individual... and that's a fact.

    And yet you are a confused 'trolling' condescending delirious whelp... that's a fact.

    ps by blocking "translate.googleapis.com" by adding it to my host file let this page load.

    Well good for you. Would you like a cookie?
    Updated 03-31-2012 at 12:43 PM by Dangaioh
  18. Dangaioh's Avatar
    BTW, it seems that you have taken personal offense and went into a condescending tirade (which made me stoop lower), just for protecting Windows7 in 'not sucking'.

    All you have posted was an opinion of Windows 7 sucking, and opinion of XP of not sucking.

    I will end it here, arguing with a fanboi is detrimental to my health and sanity, and will surmount to an endless flame-war, which would make this forum stoop lower than 4chan.

    Say what you will about 7, but in all, Windows 7 does not suck... and that's a FACT.
    Updated 03-31-2012 at 01:06 PM by Dangaioh
  19. sirloyne's Avatar
    "I don't need to place them in one folder, all images and appropriate files are placed in the appropriately named sub folders of my choice, in several main folders. This seems to be more of a filing method of the end user and possible filing method of music player of choice, than Windows7. No suck there."
    So DID you search in your My Pictures folder? I don't get what you're saying... are you searching? Google this---> windows 7 search sucks

    "Lookie here in windows7, right click, share folder in 3 steps.... whoopdeedoo, No suck there... and better yet, advanced settings to share a folder over the network with administrative-esque control. No suck there (twice)."
    Sure, as long as you only want to share your "public" folders... that is, as long as you only want to do what 7 will let you do.

    "And this statement reads like a true fan boi, with blind reliance on an OS. Sorry, they do crash, even with proper usage and protection with the best intentions of the end user."
    Say what you want, none of my XP computers ever crash. I always just put them to sleep and only reboot them every week or two. Maybe you're just not that good with computers?

    "Well, then that means I must be luckiest guy on earth, when I install my hardware on Windows7."
    Did I say 7 crashes when you install hardware? No, i didn't. So this doesn't really make sense, does it.

    "Did, I state it was 4x bigger???"
    No, I did. 7 is at least 4x bigger than XP. Plus it uses more memory. And for that you get bluer blues, rounder corners, neat-o transitions... and less ability.

    "The ability to enhance an OS from 3rd party has always been around since 95 (probably even before), it's your choice to use them."
    Yes, but the thing is, is that with 7 being so much larger, and to folks like you, so much better than XP, I think it's sad how you need to install even more stuff to get 7 to do almost as much as XP already does on it's own. That's my point.

    "It's a point of view of your perception that XP is better, never a fact."
    True, it's only my opinion, but it's an opinion shared by many people. Besides, you saying 7 is better is just your opinion, and not a fact.

    "Yes, and I will tell, that it's a over 9000 (better than a hundred) times better to share files over Windows 7, than XP."
    How would you know? You said you don't share files between computers. Are you basing your 9000x better assertion on reality, or are you just making stuff up?

    "And yet you are a confused 'trolling' condescending delirious whelp... "
    Wait... am I trolling because I responded to someone on a blog? Or because I don't agree with you? Now I am confused. Condescending: showing or characterized by a patronizing or superior attitude toward others. Show me where I did that.

    "BTW, it seems that you have taken personal offense and went into a condescending tirade (which made me stoop lower), just for protecting Windows7 in 'not sucking'."
    1. What did I say that makes you think I took any kind of personal offense?
    2. There's that word again.
    3. I didn't go into a tirade, I called you confused. If you think that was a tirade then you are confused.
    4. Just so you know, that last bit after the comma.... not only does it not make sense, but it proves that you are, in fact, quite confused.

    "All you have posted was an opinion of Windows 7 sucking, and opinion of XP of not sucking."
    Actually I tried to give examples of why XP is better than 7. The problem is that if you can't come up with a reason why I'm wrong you either change the subject or ignore my point. First you say "I don't have to share my drives and media files.", then you say "Yes, and I will tell, that it's a over 9000 (better than a hundred) times better to share files over Windows 7, than XP." I mean which is it? If you want to call me a "fanboi", feel free, but at least I have some idea of the point I'm defending, you're just making stuff up. Really you're just telling me that 7 is great and XP sucks, but not giving me any reason why. I think that's the definition of a "fanboi", don't you?

    "I will end it here, arguing with a fanboi is detrimental to my health and sanity, and will surmount to an endless flame-war, which would make this forum stoop lower than 4chan."
    You're not really arguing are you. You actually need to make a point in an argument. You're just going "7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better" Fanboi yourself. I had to look up 4chan. It's a kind of forum right? Do you troll there also?

    "Say what you will about 7, but in all, Windows 7 does not suck... and that's a FACT."
    Once again, you're trying to pass off your opinion as fact, but it's really just your opinion. I don't care how many times you say "7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better, 7's better", you haven't given me one single reason why.
    Updated 03-31-2012 at 04:51 PM by sirloyne

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