Hate to say it but Windows 7 sucks in my experience

Originally Posted by Andrea Borman

I tried Malwarebytes on my Windows 7 and Windows XP computer and it gave me a false positive.

It said had malware when I did not.

The "Malware" the Malwarebytes said I had was just the settings in Security Center or Action Center turned off alerting me by balloon notification that I have no anti virus software on my computer and that automatic updates on Windows Update is turned off.

But I have turned off the balloon notifications from Security Center myself.Because those notifications are annoying. But as I turned it off myself it is not a computer virus.

And the "malware" that Malwarebytes said I had on Windows 7 was that I had the Control Panel menu set to classic view. But I had set it that way myself. So again that is not a computer virus. And nether is turning off balloon notifications in Action Center on Windows 7 or Windows XP malware or a computer virus.

But Malwarebytes does not understand that.



But now you can see what I mean when I say that anti virus gives false positives and tells you you have a virus when you don't have a virus. What happened with Malwarebytes is a good example.

That is why I don't have any anti virus software on my computers. Andrea Borman.

Well if you read my earlier post on this thread that I quoted myself,you can see why I don't use anti virus programs. Malwarebytes got it wrong when it said that because the balloon notifications in Security Center in Windows XP were turned off it was malware. And it wanted to delete the registry key that was set on the registry to turn off notification.

But if I have turned off notifications myself then it is not malware or a computer virus.

But if you have not disabled a setting yourself and it is disabled then it could be a virus.

But that was not the case with me because I disabled the notifications in Security Center myself. And I also set the Control Panel Menu on Windows 7 to classic view myself. But Malwarebytes said that was malware and wanted to delete the registry key for that as well.

But Malwarebytes was wrong because I set the Control Panel menu to classic view myself.

And if you look on the Ask Leo website there was a post he wrote about the Run command. He said that if you disabled it yourself it is not a computer virus. But if you did not disable it yourself,then a virus did.

So if you have disabled settings on your computer yourself then it is not malware or a computer virus. But if however, the settings are disabled, and you did not disable them yourself,then it is a computer virus. But Malwarebytes did not understand that.

Now you see why I don't like anti virus programs and I do not use them. At least with Windows Defender and MRT it does not try to take over your computer.

And yes,Microsoft Security Essentials does look like Windows Defender.Probably because it is made by the same people,Microsoft. Andrea Borman.

Originally Posted by Andrea Boreman

He said that if you disabled it yourself it is not a computer virus. But if you did not disable it yourself,then a virus did.

So you decry anti-virus software despite knowing full well that one application returned a false positive because the application erred on the side caution?

Obviously there's no need to consider the rationale behind the cautious approach. The fact that there is a very real precedence of virus/malware actually disabling those security features is a trifling matter.

What an interesting cognitive outlook you have.

Originally Posted by Andrea Borman

So you do not need anti virus software. There are no viruses on Windows. Andrea Borman.

That is an interesting comment. Certainly Windows does not come with viruses but they can be acquired if not protected from them with an anti-virus software.

"That is an interesting comment. Certainly Windows does come with viruses but they can be acquired if not protected from them with an anti-virus software." 'leeiwinks'

We know you meant to write, ... Windows does NOT come with virii...
And you can get them if not protected, huh?... hmmm, well, imagine that, eh? Who'd a thunk it (teehee)

Keep up the good fight, Folks. Kudos to you for trying.

Originally Posted by Drew

"That is an interesting comment. Certainly Windows does come with viruses but they can be acquired if not protected from them with an anti-virus software." 'leeiwinks'

We know you meant to write, ... Windows does NOT come with virii...
And you can get them if not protected, huh?... hmmm, well, imagine that, eh? Who'd a thunk it (teehee)

Keep up the good fight, Folks. Kudos to you for trying.

Thanks Drew, yes I did forget a word there. All fixed now.

Drew, I like your sarcasm.

So Andrea tell me, what was the name of the Virus Malewarebites found? Was it a virus or maleware? Was it critical or passive? Did it tell you to delete the regestry entry or edit it back to default? There is so much that you left out of your statement that is relevent.

There is a huge difference in AV and Maleware. AV looks spacificly for code that is used in viruses from its database of code associated with viruses. Maleware software looks for code associated with software that is reported to me malicious and is cataloged in its database of malicious software. The only thing they hold in common is that they bod have their own definition database. The things that MSE searches for is not part of what Defender searchs for. Though because Defender is part of MSE it dose search for the same things that Defender searches for. Look at it this way, take a BLT. If you take away the bacon, would you still call it a BLT? No it would be a vegitarian sandwitch. That is the same idea as software. MSE is the BLT and is made up of many differnt parts. One part maleware, one part AV. Doese that make since to you?

This should be interesting...

'lemmiwinks', you're welcome

Oh & that's cool, 'whs' nudge, nudge

Drew

Originally Posted by NaiyaShamiso

So Andrea tell me, what was the name of the Virus Malewarebites found? Was it a virus or maleware? Was it critical or passive? Did it tell you to delete the regestry entry or edit it back to default? There is so much that you left out of your statement that is relevent.

There is a huge difference in AV and Maleware. AV looks spacificly for code that is used in viruses from its database of code associated with viruses. Maleware software looks for code associated with software that is reported to me malicious and is cataloged in its database of malicious software. The only thing they hold in common is that they bod have their own definition database. The things that MSE searches for is not part of what Defender searchs for. Though because Defender is part of MSE it dose search for the same things that Defender searches for. Look at it this way, take a BLT. If you take away the bacon, would you still call it a BLT? No it would be a vegitarian sandwitch. That is the same idea as software. MSE is the BLT and is made up of many differnt parts. One part maleware, one part AV. Doese that make since to you?

It said that my setting which I set myself on Windows XP-which was that I had turned off balloon notifications from Security Center myself was malware. And it wanted me to delete the registry setting saying notifications from Security Center are turned off.

And on Windows 7 it said that my Control Panel set to classic view was malware. But I had set it that way myself to classic view. And it wanted to delete the registry key for that.

So now you see what I mean by false positives with anti virus software. Andrea Borman.

That is great and dandy, but what did it tell you changed that? Did it say that a virus/maleware changed it? If it did what did it say changed it?

Looking at what you said it looks like it was informing you that a system setting has been changed, and since you did it yourself, that would be something to ignore. The reason I say to ignore it, is becuse you did it and you know what it happened. This is an example of learning to use the software.