New Dell computer....

The memory I got from Dell was manufactured by Hynix Semiconductor(Hyuandai Electronics)

The specs are....2 x 4Gig, DDR3-SDRAM, 1333 MHz.

Well the computer is noticably faster. Programs load up faster, web pages load up almost instanly, music loads up into programs really quick....I'll be able to work with larger music programs, meaning more recording tracks, more instruments, effects such as reverb and delay soak up memory, the music sample programs I have eat up as much memory as they can get. No I'm not going back to 4 gigs any time soon.

Hmmm, never used it. I mostly get Corsair, Kingston or OCZ. I looked up the website, I have seen the branding some where before...just not sure where.

The speed of programs and featurs of the programs would be affected more by the speed of the disk it is installed on. Web pages are affected more by the internet connection and web browser than memory. Though the ammount of things that you can load at one time, you are spot on. Depending on how much the program is designed to use, it can use alot of memory. The more things you add the more memory it is going to use. Only if you add faster RAM, and all the RAM has to be the same spee, will it affect speed at all.

Well I mainly bought the 8 gigs of ram to help out the sound sample programs and the Sonar X1 recording program. Both will be upgraded to 64 bit programs this week. This is so I can get the most out of my 8 gigs of ram. I haven't even begun to see the effects yet. The computer sure seems to be much zippier (is that a word ? )than it was.

In other news, I also upgraded my computer chair. I was at the local Salvation Army Thrift Store, and spotted a like new black vinyl high back office chair that is super comfortable and supports my back nicely. They had it marked at $89.00 so I decided to buy it because it looked like a $200 chair. I get to the register and the girl said it had been on the floor for two weeks and was now eligible for a 25 % discount, so I ended up getting it for $ 72 with tax....excellent buy !!

Originally Posted by NaiyaShamiso

Hmmm, never used it. I mostly get Corsair, Kingston or OCZ. I looked up the website, I have seen the branding some where before...just not sure where.

The speed of programs and featurs of the programs would be affected more by the speed of the disk it is installed on. Web pages are affected more by the internet connection and web browser than memory. Though the ammount of things that you can load at one time, you are spot on. Depending on how much the program is designed to use, it can use alot of memory. The more things you add the more memory it is going to use. Only if you add faster RAM, and all the RAM has to be the same spee, will it affect speed at all.

Naiya, for his music programs it may very well have an effect. We really do not know how they work. But for other programs and the web you are right - it is a placebo effect.

Yea, the music programs might speed up a little on start up, though that would be along the lines of a running out of RAM fix. The more memory it has to play with that it will the faster it will load, just for the simple fact that it dosen't have to worry about where in memory it goes, it just slaps it in there. In that case you will be limited by the DMA, the speed on with the disk and memory will talk to each other.

I almost put DRM instead of DMA, RIAA must be talkinga bout me LMAO

Well like I said the music programs are 64 bit for a reason, so they can access more that 3.2 gigs of memory that a 32 bit program would access...that's what I have now, 32 bit programs. Once they get upgraded they will be much more powerful programs, which will run extra music tracks better, better sound effects like reverb, compression, delay etc....those are real memory hogs...the sound samples will play better, smoother, quicker...etc..overall 8 gigs of memory will make a huge difference in their performance, and it's all highly recommended by the software companies to get as much memory as your computer will support. In my case, the Dell 620 will only support upto 8 gigs, so I'm maxed out on this computer. There's guys out there with 16-24 gigs of memory that swear by the improvements.

After running Windows 7-32 bit for a year or so, and now running Windows 7-64 bit, there is quite a bit of difference in performance, which I attribute to better access to more memory. It's not just a placebo. There is a noticable difference. If there wasn't a difference, we'd all still be running 256K ram.

Oh where to start on this one.

The limit of a 32 bit Windows after 2000 is 4 GB, not 3.2...what have I told you about pulling number out of a hat LMAO Memory only holds the information that comes from a disk, and sends it to the places it needs to be sent. The ammount of RAM only dictates how many things can be loaded at one time, not the quality. An 1000 Mhz PIII Xeon can run something like 5 GB of registered ECC Rambus, but it is still going to run like crap if you try to use it to run Adobe CS 5. It is with in the minimum requirements, though it is really old and wont preform at all. Performance wise there is no differnce in a 32 Bit and 64 Bit Windows, because they are almost the same. The kernel, a few services, the addition of the Program Files x86, that is really all that is difernt. There are lots of things deep in the system, though that was coverd with the change in the Kernel. If you take a look around, your OS, there is really ver few things that are a 64 Bit process. Most people dont even know that there is a diffence in Media Player, and they are using the 32 Bit version. Pull up your Taks Manager, and go under Processes...any name that is followed by a *32 is a 32 Bit process, and the exact same thing that runs on a 32 Bit Windows. It is a placebo effect, you wanted it to make your computer faster, and now you think you see working. If I was to replace your RAM with two two GB sticks, you wouldn't notice, well unless you ran out of RAM that is. We have so much because it takes so much more to hole all the crap that is being used today. The examle you used of:

Originally Posted by djwayne

If there wasn't a difference, we'd all still be running 256K ram.

is adsurd. You are trying to relate space and speed together, when that are not relateable. More space doesn't translate to faster, never has and never will. It is a ghost, an illution of what the use wants it to be like. In short, it is exactly what whs said it is, a placebo effect, plain and simple.

Well then downgrade your memory to 256 k and come back and give us a full report. I'll stick with my 8 gigs.

You didn't listen to a single thing I have been saying. This is what really intersts me, that you are trying so hard to prove me wrong, when I have 22 years experience and a Computer Networking Systems degree behind me, that says I know what I am talking about. I have run computers with specs that would make your head explode, we are talking about corperate servers, not this little workstation stuff. Servers running 8 or even 16 processors and 20+ hard drives. I know what I am talking about and I know what I am doing. So go ahead and make your next little post about how I am wrong. It will make something intersting to read.

Why then won't you take my challenge and try downgrading your memory and see what happens ?? I'll tell you right now Windows 7-32 bit won't work at all with 256k, as the minimum requirements are 1 gig for a 32 bit installation and 2 gigs for a 64 bit installation.

Why can't you admit that more memory=better performance ??

I hate to tell you this but 8+ gigs of memory is becoming the new standard for musicians. Nobody is impressed with 4 gigs anymore.