New Dell computer....

What matters the most is that the user is satisfied with their purchase. I realize that you got a deal on the PC, and added things at your pace, & that's perfectly fine. Not everyone can get all that he/she wants at once. I can't myself.

This is why I'm already saving for my next PC, a small amount of cash each month adds up over 3 & a half years, which is when I'll purchase my next one.

As long as the PC is upgradable for expansion to meet the user's future needs, then that's good. At some point, if needed, the CPU can be upgraded to an i5, if not needed, that's good too.

Dwayne, I hope that you're enjoying your PC, & that it will serve your needs for many years.

Best of Luck,
Cat

Originally Posted by djwayne

My point is that I got a nice little computer for $399 that's far from bare minimum, but not too pricey.

3.30GHz.

12 gig RAM

500 Gig Hard drive

2nd 500 Gig Hard drive for back up

2- 64 gig SSD's

Yes I paid extra for the back up drive, memory upgrade, and SSD's, but it's a great computer that'll do the job for me within my budget. The 2nd generation i3 cpu does a fine job with my programs.

Any thing under $500 is a cheap computer, I dont care what who says what, that is FACT. You start running into olnboard/intergrated grafx, striped down raid cards, underpowerd CPUs, the list goes on and on. Now you already said taht you had the SSDs and 2nd 500 GB drive, crap you allready have is not part of your new purchase price. As well as things you dont have, like 12 GB RAM, you allready said that the system is limited to 8 GB max. A 500 GB HDD is nothing to get excited about at all. 3 years ago, yea that was about right, now its 1/2 what you should expect. Almost all cmputer should be comming with 800 to 1000 GB bare minimum. Not cause you spacificly need it, but because these computers are cookie cutter and some where someone that is going to buy this low priced budget computer will need it. I have no problems listening to you and talking with you about facts and how things work, but when you start using false information to prove you point, thats when i get annoyed.

Originally Posted by djwayne

I don't think I need 12 gigs of RAM just to surf the web...I think you've been oversold a bill of goods. You don't need a monster computer to do simple tasks.

OMG, you want to pull that out of your hat? You have been oversold...OMG...Okay look I can do custom builds of computers that will range from $1,100 to $39,000. The last word on it is how important is what you are going to use this computer for to you? If you want to go with the bare minimum when it comes to your equipment, then you are going to get the bare minimum product and the bare minimum time frame.

I didn't pass out any false information. I've got two 500 gig drives which adds up to 1,000 gigs of hard drive space that I have available to me, that's plenty for my needs, but on top of that I have 120 gigs of SSD space. That's hardly a bare minimum computer. Is a under $500 computer a cheap computer ?? Not any more, the stats on them have risen dramatically in the last few years. My current computer is much better equiped than the computer I had 5 years ago, and it costs a lot less too. I don't need a $39,000 dollar custom built computer. I didn't need to spend a $1,000....and I ended up with a much better computer than what I previously had. If you build computers for a living, you've got some tough competition out there. I can see why you're annoyed, but beating up on my little Dell ain't gonna change things.

No, beating up on your little Dell doesn't change things, but the fact is, it was originally a $399 computer. Which by today's standards is rather cheap. There are plenty in the sub-$500 range at Wal-Mart, I wouldn't want one of them.

You get what you pay for. Setting your customizations to the side for a moment, it was a low-end PC out of the box. $399 only buys so much. Dell sends their junk mail here, I've seen plenty of their PC's in that price range.

Like I said in my post above, I hope that it will serve you many years, but don't be shocked if it doesn't.

Then, you'll be willing to spend more the next time around. My HP desktop PC cost $599 in 2009, that was considered cheap at the time as well. But at least I accept that fact, and learned more on how to buy.

That's the fact that I don't believe you've accepted yet, and why this is a 23 page & running thread. From your opening statement, that was all but proclaimed to be the best PC in the world, yet that doesn't change what it is. Time will tell the final story on that.

Cat

I agree 100% with what you said Cat. Great way to put it.

When you start talking about a $399 computer and how cost effective it was, then you start raddeling off a list of parts, that is a misleading statement, and there for false information.

I looked up that 620 again, and in the time that we have been talking about it it has droped $100 in price. Not really holding its value much. LoL

I never said it was the best computer in the world, but for me it's the better than what I had at a very affordable price. It's getting me to where I want to go. Ya I could have easily spent $1,000's of dollars on another PC or even bought a MAC, but I chose not to, and came out with a nice little computer that's working fine for me...so what's so bad about that ??

Ya prices drop on high tech gear, that's why I'm careful not to spend too much.

I've been very upfront about what I have added to my computer, there is NO FALSE INFORMATION. You're just being ridiculous.

Yea, it could have been worse. You could have the same computer you have now, and have spent $2,000 for it...Mac sucks. ROFLMAO

Oh, BTW, its Mac, not MAC. MAC refers to the MAC Address for your NIC, every computers with an 802 network interface has one. The MAC is a hardware address formated in hexadecimal. Mac is an abbreviation for Macintosh a devision of Apple computers. Just so you know in the future if you ever need to work with MAC addresses, so you don't get it confused.

Originally Posted by NaiyaShamiso

Yea, it could have been worse. You could have the same computer you have now, and have spent $2,000 for it...Mac sucks. ROFLMAO
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Now you're starting catch on !! LOL !!

This is not personal, its almost all computer have problems like the ones we are talking about. I would say...ummm about 97-98% of all computers out, can be improved in about three differnt ways. Not talking about mor RAM or what ever, I mean better air flow, better fans, things that will lengthen its life in a very signifigant way. Very rarely do you ever see one, esspecaly a cookie cutter that has the things needed to be "prefect". Most of the time you will see the perfect modles in the $1,000 to $2,000 range. Thers are the ones that are capable of taking up to 6 or even 8 or 10 cores and have an added graphics adapter. These are the ones that you want to get, cause even though you get the cheap version of it, they can be upgraded and made new again, with less than it would cost to buy a new one. With the advancement in graphics cards, it is now possable to use your graphics card as a peralell processor. So if you get a system like mine, $1,100 three years ago, and add the GTX 460, would be something like $1,500 to $1,600 for parts. Now this will take it and make it go from a quad-core i7 with 8 threads, to something like a 452 cores with 456 threads. It is all about what the system can do. Soon when i get a new gameing computer, if intel will ever drop our their hyperthreaded deca-core processor *evil face look*, this system that i game on now will replace the email and web surfing computer, and that one will go into the hardly ever used section of the lab. I'll use it for Minecraft or something. Any way, the point we are trying to make is if you spend extra in the begining it will save in the end.

I don't need 6,8 or 10 cores...I don't even need 4, I'm getting by nicely with my i3. At the time I bought the Dell, money was tight and I needed a new computer like right now. Since then the money situation has gotten better, but the Dell is working out nicely, so I don't need another computer. So it all worked out good for me. My experience says more fans = more noise, and I don't want more noise. The i3 runs cool so I don't need more fans/ better airflow. I like quiet, I've even disconnected my back up drive's power so that it's not running all the time. I'll plug it back in, reformat it and run a fresh backup every month or so, disconnect it, and that's plenty enough for me. I also like this plan because it isolates my back up drive from surge or virus problems.