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    Re: New Dell computer....

    In that case then, it is a hyperthreaded CPU, was launched at around the same time as mine, but it says that it's capable of handling 32GB RAM. I suppose that the MB is the bottleneck there. Mine says 8GB is the limit, but there are other features, mine costing over $100 more.

    If that CPU is capable of handling 32GB RAM, I'd be looking for a new MB.

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    Yea specks wise it is a little bit a head of yours, though here is a kicker, if you noticed, it has an intergrated GPU. So while you are running and doing your thing at full speed, the i3 is being chunked in two CPU and GPU. Thats going to take away from the performance of the chip. So in all reality, it needs all that just to keep up with your lower powered chip. Also being that it is an intergrated graphics, it wont be able to use all the 8 GB as system RAM, because some of it is being used for the graphics. I have seen them go as high as 1.75 and 2.25 GB, then on top of that they would shadow it as well, so you could bu looking at as much as 3.5 to 4.5 GB of system memory being used for the grapchics. LoL, that is almost half of the total avalable. LoL its all about how you look at it, also we would have to get a DXdiag to know for sure what it is running at. These potentaly systme cripeling problems are things you dont have to worry about, hince the extra $100 cost.

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    Re: New Dell computer....

    Quote Originally Posted by NaiyaShamiso View Post
    I second that esspecialy when the system requrements are looking like this

    Symphonic Orchestral

    Minimum Requirements for PC


    • Pentium 4 3.0GHz, 2GB of free RAM, Windows XP SP2 or Vista, sound card with ASIO drivers

    Recommended PC System


    • Intel or AMD Quad Core 2.0GHz, 8GB RAM, 64-bit OS and host



    Sonar X1

    Windows XP Service Pack 3 (32-bit)/Vista Service Pack 2 (32- or 64-bit)/Windows 7 (32- or 64-bit)*
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 2.67 GHz/AMD Phenom Quad Core 9750 2.4 Ghz
    2 GB RAM
    1280x800 minimum screen resolution
    4.5GB for minimal installation, 15GB for complete installation
    SONAR on DVD: DVD-ROM, DVD+/-R or DVD+/-RW Drive
    SONAR download: Broadband or better internet connection for download
    Cakewalk Publisher requires available web server space with FTP access




    LoL
    You've got the wrong program, you're stating the requirements for the Platinum program which I do NOT have. The recommended requirements for the GOLD program which I do have, are Windows XP, Pentium 4,/Athlon 3gHz and 2 gigs of RAM.

    For the Cakewalk Sonar program the requirements are as follows;
    Windows XP Service Pack 3 (32-bit)/Vista Service Pack 2 (32- or 64-bit)/Windows 7 (32- or 64-bit)*
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 2.67 GHz/AMD Phenom Quad Core 9750 2.4 Ghz
    2 GB RAM

    4.5GB for minimal installation, 15GB for complete installation


    So I am well within the recommended requirements.


    To clear things up, as I have stated, I have the second generation i3 that just came out in the 4th quarter of 2011.

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    Re: New Dell computer....

    Quote Originally Posted by catilley1092 View Post
    An i3 w/o hyperthreading? Peaking at 21% while doing all of the things that you stated concurrently....get real man!!!

    What program are you keeping track of your CPU usage with? Have you tried the one that ships with Windows 7? It's there in the task manager. Or try Rainmeter, both are free.

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    My i5 with dual cores & four threads (hyperthreading) would break that barrier with the programs that you're describing.

    I'm just looking at the resource monitor in Windows and it'll tell you the exact amount of usage you cpu is running at. I also checked the cpu meter in the Sonar program, and it's barely a blip on the meter. And that's with the recording test I described earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaiyaShamiso View Post
    Yea specks wise it is a little bit a head of yours, though here is a kicker, if you noticed, it has an intergrated GPU. So while you are running and doing your thing at full speed, the i3 is being chunked in two CPU and GPU. Thats going to take away from the performance of the chip. So in all reality, it needs all that just to keep up with your lower powered chip. Also being that it is an intergrated graphics, it wont be able to use all the 8 GB as system RAM, because some of it is being used for the graphics. I have seen them go as high as 1.75 and 2.25 GB, then on top of that they would shadow it as well, so you could bu looking at as much as 3.5 to 4.5 GB of system memory being used for the grapchics. LoL, that is almost half of the total avalable. LoL its all about how you look at it, also we would have to get a DXdiag to know for sure what it is running at. These potentaly systme cripeling problems are things you dont have to worry about, hince the extra $100 cost.
    I don't have to worry about anything because the i3 is working just fine with my programs as is. I like having the integrated graphics because I don't have to deal with a graphics card. Less heat, less noise.

    I don't feel the need for 32 gigs of ram so I won't be looking for a new MB either.

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    Re: New Dell computer....

    I'm also within the recommended system requirements for my Ivory II piano sample program.....

    2.5 GHz Dual Core PowerPC G5 or 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU

    2 GB RAM
    77 GB free hard drive space
    I'm only using two of the three piano sample sets because my SSD is only has a 64 gig capacity. You can break this program up into three parts, one for each piano set. I picked out my two favorite piano sets and just installed them, and that worked out fine. Ideally I should get a larger SSD to hold the whole 77 gig program plus about 15%....but I really don't need it as the two piano sample set I chose are taking care of my piano needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djwayne View Post
    You've got the wrong program, you're stating the requirements for the Platinum program which I do NOT have. The recommended requirements for the GOLD program which I do have, are Windows XP, Pentium 4,/Athlon 3gHz and 2 gigs of RAM.

    For the Cakewalk Sonar program the requirements are as follows;
    Windows XP Service Pack 3 (32-bit)/Vista Service Pack 2 (32- or 64-bit)/Windows 7 (32- or 64-bit)*
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 2.67 GHz/AMD Phenom Quad Core 9750 2.4 Ghz
    2 GB RAM

    4.5GB for minimal installation, 15GB for complete installation


    So I am well within the recommended requirements.


    To clear things up, as I have stated, I have the second generation i3 that just came out in the 4th quarter of 2011.
    OMG now you are a n00b. You just posted the exact same thing I did, and said I got the requirements wrong. LoL What a freaking n00b. I did have respect for you up untill them, now you are no better than any other n00b with a web browser and copy paste function. LoL

    Quote Originally Posted by djwayne View Post
    I don't have to worry about anything because the i3 is working just fine with my programs as is. I like having the integrated graphics because I don't have to deal with a graphics card. Less heat, less noise.

    I don't feel the need for 32 gigs of ram so I won't be looking for a new MB either.
    The fact reamains that you are at the mercy of your OS and hardware. If you OS decides it wants more power for the graphics, then it is going to take it and you have no control over that. Now if it dose that right in the middle of a project...out comes crap product. It is as simple as crap in crap out. You run the risk of putting out crap product and having to start again. That is a bad way to do business. People come to me not cause I'm the cheapest or the most cost effective, but because I do the job and I do the job right. I have had one complaint in the last 5 years of doing work in this area, and that complaint was invalid, becuase the owner set out before hand what he wanted and it was crap equipment. Its not my fault if you decide you want crap to me installed. like I said crap in crap out. OH by the way what was the name of your company, Ill be sure to stear clear of it.

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    I'm also within the recommended system requirements for my Ivory II piano sample program.....

    2.5 GHz Dual Core PowerPC G5 or 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU

    2 GB RAM
    77 GB free hard drive space
    I'm only using two of the three piano sample sets because my SSD is only has a 64 gig capacity. You can break this program up into three parts, one for each piano set. I picked out my two favorite piano sets and just installed them, and that worked out fine. Ideally I should get a larger SSD to hold the whole 77 gig program plus about 15%....but I really don't need it as the two piano sample set I chose are taking care of my piano needs.
    OMG, this is why people sould leave the technical work for the adults. Lumping the system reqiremnts for Mac and PC together, such a n00b move. Though I would bet that this was ariginaly writen for the Mac and ported to PC, so that would explain their lack of knowledge to how a computer works. ROFLMAO

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    Re: New Dell computer....

    You haven't sold me on one bit of your "skills". In fact you come off as a snobby pushy nerd who deals in computer sales who won't shut up until I buy something. My computer is just fine, it's too bad you didn't see the difference in the system requirements, 2 gig vrs 8 gig is a pretty big difference. And no I'm not gonna drill any air holes in my computer.

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    N00B, Look again...I put both the minimum and recomended...OMG you are such a n00b. It is even labled in larger font and BOLD, minimum and Recomended. OMG n00b, let the adults talk here.

    Snobby....yes
    Pushy......only when I know what I'm talking about.
    Wont shut up till you buy something...nope, dont care. I deal in the service, that is where my money comes from. You can buy all crap equipment, and I will install it. Though it will be in your contract that you bought all crap equipment and that is on your head, not mine. I get paid for doing the work, not for what you buy. This is a small area and when word got around about how badly the owner of the first job screwed up the project with his crap choice in equipment, now people listen to what I have to say about it.

    You can call me snobby and pushy all you want...though there are a few that you left out...elitist, 1337, correct, jackass, bitch, professional grade, the list goes on and on. There is a reason that people look for me and seek me out to do their work for them. I handed out 10 business cards, about six years ago...have not advrotised since then. Says something about what I do and how I do it. So yea, little insults from a n00b, do not bother me.

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    I was being nice, the only reason I'm being nice is that I don't want to get kicked off the forum....and no, I don't want your card.

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