Application: Classic Shell

Andrea it doesn't matter what type of connection your using. The simple fact is your at risk by not using AV where ever you are and whatever connection type your using.

This thread is getting somewhat out of hand, we all have to make sure no one is subjected to personal attacks. We can disagree and even try to educate but no attacks please.

Originally Posted by nmsuk

Andrea it doesn't matter what type of connection your using. The simple fact is your at risk by not using AV where ever you are and whatever connection type your using.

This thread is getting somewhat out of hand, we all have to make sure no one is subjected to personal attacks. We can disagree and even try to educate but no attacks please.

There are several of these threads with Andrea and nobody has changed her mind yet on AV or some of her other strange ideas.
Joe

This thread's topic was asked and apparently answered within the first page and five posts with a good exchange of information between the OP, Elmer and Old Timer. It has subsequently gone off the rails and off topic. I would invite any member who has other information regarding Classic Shell to provide any such information here and get this post back on topic, but would suggest that perhaps if other topics regarding AntiVirus solutions or discussions of the virtues or short comings of various operating systems and associated hardware need to be covered, maybe starting another thread in the appropriate subforum might be a better approach and method for such discussions.
Your understanding and cooperation regarding this matter is sincerely appreciated.
Kind Regards
Randy

I got a copy of Windows 8. I installed Classic Shell on it. This is my notice that I am going to start a thread about Classic Shell on the Windows 8 forum.

As we often agree upon in information technology and software development, there is no such thing as a bug free program. However, this program has proven to be useful to those who liked the old menu. Be sure not edit dynamic link library files, including shell32.dll in your exploration of this software. If Windows 7 suddenly undergoes a major upgrade, it is safe to say you generally do not want to have programs like this installed on your system, simply based on principle alone. Windows Service Packs for instance, not only include a roll-up of all prior updates, but often include updates to concepts like the Windows shell, display, and other areas. We saw this particularly this year with FRAPS and got the bug fixed by the development team quickly because we had the build. Of course, this software edits no major system files, and I am under the assumption that Classic Shell operates in the same way. You can see in the VMWare Unity Feature how easy it is to render an extra Windows Start Menu above the old one (I personally love this feature so much).

Personally, I don’t have any need to recommend the software, but I doubt there is much to worry about. Avoid any third party modifications that would modify your system files – this is where the problems always begin and end with desktop customization software. For example, the Object Desktop Suite from Stardock is beautifully crafted and wonderful. They worked with Microsoft on the Windows theme system itself. It is crafted in such a way that it is a dream for icon developers and theme builders. But often times, it destroys the Windows icon cache for an account irrevocably. Don’t ask me why or how – it just happens. In the past, Windows Updates would destroy the entire program, or operating system, but they worked heavily to make it more modular.

I still like ObjectDesktop, but I simply can’t afford to run it on my production systems. There are too many things that can go wrong. So not to go off topic, but you see what I am saying? Just avoid changing the Windows system files at all costs. It will become a major problem in the future.

Windows, however, has become quite scalable in how developers can do things. The fact that you can implement this menu without much difficulty really Is a testament to all of the hard work that goes into software development both on the open source end with Classic Start Menu, as well as the commercial development end with Microsoft Windows. Billions of dollars are likely spent developing this operating, and while it won’t solve everything, programs like this show that users still very much have control of Windows functionality. I would consider this a great example of how the open source community benefits Windows. I use many open source applications like FileZilla in Windows to perform FTP duties. Further, anyone who knows about logging into Linux terminals will know of PuTTy.

While not a user of the program, consider me an enthusiast. Let people make Windows look and work the way they want it to.

I agree with everything you said, except for the need for classic shell. I can see it and other software like it, being a training wheel for the new start menu. Install it until you get your start menu 100% usable to you, then you can get rid of it. That kind of thing. Every thing is till set up like in previous Windows installs. So I am wondering how the new start menu is supose to work from the get go. There wasn't even a Media Play shortcut in the start menu. Boggled me for a while. But getting off subject. I will post my review and thoughts on the Windows 8 forum.

Originally Posted by NaiyaShamiso

I got a copy of Windows 8. I installed Classic Shell on it. This is my notice that I am going to start a thread about Classic Shell on the Windows 8 forum.

You Installed Windows 8? You are very brave. From what I have seen of it it's nothing like the Windows we know and love,Windows 7 or Windows XP.

The good thing about Windows 7 is that you can run all of the software,web browsers and chat messengers that you run on Windows XP and Windows Vista. Advanced browser,Windows Live Messenger for Windows XP and others all work on Windows 7. Even though they were made for Windows XP.

But I don't think we would be able to run our Windows XP,Windows Vista or Windows 7 software on Windows 8. And then there is that horrible metro theme as they call it. The tiled desktop and no start menu. It is confusing and ugly and the whole Windows 8 operating system is Alien to me and most people. And from what I read on the How to Geek website-is it true that you have to have a password on Windows 8? Unlike on Windows 7,Windows XP and Windows Vista,where you don't have to have a password if you do not want one.

That is why I never want to use Windows 8.It is not like Windows 7 and it does not even look like Windows 7 or the other versions of Windows we know,Windows XP or Windows Vista.

If they stop making Windows 7 and we are forced to buy Windows 8, when our computer wares out. I will have to give up using a computer.

But does Classic Shell work on Windows 8? If you are going to use an operating system like Windows 8,with not even a start menu. Then you will need a software like Classic Shell. But I think it is a mistake to give up your Windows 7 for Windows 8. And if I had to choose between a Windows Vista computer and Windows 8. I will choose Windows Vista. I tried out Windows Vista recently in a shop that sells second hand computers. And Windows Vista is the same as Windows 7. Windows 8 is not, and not only that,it is not like Windows. Andrea Borman.

A good article on this phenomenon with Windows 8 can be seen here: Why the Windows 7 Start Menu is Going Out of Fashion

There is no indication as to "why" it may have been considered necessary to completely change things around, just because a study found people were using a new feature. The study shows that people used the Windows 7 "pin" feature for the taskbar. Before this feature was around, those of us who used the Quick Start Toolbar did the same thing. I think most power users will turn it off, but this remains to be seen.

I and most Windows users who are average computer users are used to a Windows with a start menu. It is true that Windows 2000 looks different from Windows XP and Windows 7. And Windows Vista and Windows 7 have the Aero transparent theme, but Windows XP does not. But all the versions of Windows have a start menu,so that you can find all of the settings. The Windows Vista and 7 start menu looks different from Windows XP,but it's a start menu.And so does Windows 2000,98 and 95 have a start menu.

Windows 8 does not have any start menu, and from what I saw on the web, is different from all of the other Windows. And everybody has gotten used to Windows 7 and likes it. So I see no need for a Windows 8.When we have got Windows 7 and it does everything we want it to. And we know how to use it. If I had to have Windows 8 I would be lost on there.

And because of my limited experience with computers,using Windows 8 will be as bad as it was trying to use Linux. If they are going to make Windows 8 like Windows 7 in appearance with a start menu. And take away that horrible tiled theme and give us a normal Windows desktop like in Windows 7,fine. But if not I do not want to go on Windows 8.

And I don't think they should make a Windows 8 at all. Why not just work on improving Windows 7. Although it does not need improving as I am quite happy with Windows 7 the way it is. Andrea Borman.

Windows 8 does not have any start menu

Windows 8 does have a start menu you just have to enable it. You also get a normal desktop so there nothing to worry about. As for having to have a password that's true but your machine should have a password.

And I don't think they should make a Windows 8 at all. Why not just work on improving Windows 7. Although it does not need improving as I am quite happy with Windows 7 the way it is.

I'm sorry but everything needs improving as technology gets better UI changes and the like are going to be more prevalent. As for windows 8 the developer preview is stable and I'm finding on my machine slightly faster than 7.

NmsUK