Application: Classic Shell

That looks nothing like a OSX, like I said, it is the Phone 7 interface. For your reference I have included a link to Google with screen shots of OSX

mac osX - Google Search

Now look at that, you ain't paying attention again. 3/4 of the way through the video that you provided what do you see. Oh my gosh a task bar and start menu. I know you are going to say you didn't see it, then ask where is it, spoon feed it to me. So I guess I will have to. The part that he is talking bout using existing apps, and brings up Excel 2010. At the bottom of the screen, there it is, task bar and start menu. Then not only that I found the Windows Explorer and Control Panel already in the video. If you need another spoon feed answer, it is at the beginning. When he shows the tiles for the first time, middle row all the way to the right, Windows Explorer, green tile with the Sprocket, Control Panel.

Yea, so you bought cheap out of date computers and want them to last a very long time. I guess if you call three years a very long time, then they should do fine for that. Any way, I have to go to work.

Well,I went to the Classic Shell website and I noticed that they have released a new version of Classic Shell,brought out 2 days ago. So I have gone ahead and installed it on my Windows 7 Starter Netbook. As well as the classic start menu, you can also install Classic Explorer for a classic buttons in Windows Explorer. And also classic IE9 for a toobar in IE9 if you have IE9,which I don't.

But I have only installed Classic start menu, as I am happy with the way Windows Explorer is in both Windows 7 and Windows XP. And here are the results in my pictures above in my Windows 7 Starter. And as you can see, Classic Shell does work in Windows 7 Starter. And the first picture shows my classic start menu and the other 2 pictures show my Classic Shell on Windows XP start menu setting on my Windows 7. As you can see in my pictures,the Start menu is very much like it is on my Windows XP Netbook. And when you click programs it opens out into a small sub menu like on Windows XP. And the third picture shows the Windows Xp start menu, with the search bar enabled. So you can still use Windows search, just like you can on the Windows 7 start menu setting.The search bar is also in the classic start menu.

But the real classic start menu does not have the search bar, but we are on Windows 7. So as well as being able to have both the classic and Windows XP start menu,you have got the search bar,with Windows search as well. And in addition to that,Classic Shell also has the Windows Vista and Windows 7 start menu setting. But the difference is that both Windows Vista and Windows 7 start menu have the programs menu that opens out into a sub menu. The same way it does on the classic and Windows XP start menu.

And that wallpaper you see on my Windows 7 Starter-well,I have got Personalization Panel. Which enables you to change the wallpaper on Windows 7 Starter. And it works on Windows Classic theme setting as well as on Windows 7 Basic setting.

And so it seems that Classic Shell is working on my Netbook since I have tried the new updated version. So as well as the classic start menu,you can have a Windows XP start menu, or even a Windows Vista start menu if you want it. On all versions of Windows 7,even on Windows 7 Starter. As well as the Windows 7 Basic start menu,with a classic programs list,(like it is on Windows XP.)So it can be done. Andrea Borman.

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I seem to remember that you where the only one saying that it doesn't work. Now you want to sing its praises? Glory on high to the mighty software creator? It makes me wonder about you some times. You flip your script really quickly.

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Well,I have installed the latest version of Classic Shell,which is brought out only on the 20th August 2011 a few days ago. So this time last week there was still only the old version,which may have had bugs. But the problem I had was that I could not change the start menu from Classic to Windows XP or vista,which is another theme Classic Shell has.

But when I think about it now,it was because I probably was not using it properly. That is at that time I was using it, I did not know how to work the settings and there are quite a number of them. There are several different settings on Classic Shell,and also if you want to pin your items to the start menu. You don't just pin it, like on the modern start menu, you right click with your mouse and the wizard creates the short cut. So you can put Firefox or Google Chrome on your classic start menu. And the menu is quite short in hight and does not take up the hole computer screen like the modern start menu. But the more programs to add to your start menu increases the hight.

But Windows XP also has the Classic start menu included in the operating system. And I was surprised learn that so does Windows Vista. So if you buy Windows Vista you also get the classic start menu,included,which you can switch to if you want to. And the classic start menu settings on Windows XP are similar to classic shells settings. So I think that's where I figured out how to use the classic start menu setting. By using the classic start menu on my Windows XP.

But the classic start menu is not included in Windows 7,so you have to install it your self. There is other software where you can get the classic start menu but most other software is no free to use. Only free for a trial period and then you have to pay to carry on using it.

But looking at the classic start menu settings on my Windows XP laptop and by looking at Classic Shells settings. The settings are both very similar to one another but Classic Shell has more themes. Such as you can switch to Windows XP or Vista Start menu and Windows 7 Areo or Windows 7 basic start menu. And in addition to that the difference between Classic Shells Windows vista and Windows 7s start menu from Microsoft's version. Is that Classic Shells Windows Vista or Windows 7 start menu-when you click programs you get a second column list of all the program-2 columns.Like on the classic start menu and on Windows XP start menu. But as you know on the REAL Windows Vista and Windows 7 start menu-it is just one column only. That is the difference but I don't mind the modern Windows 7 start menu. Sure,I never use the areo theme or Windows 7 basic on my Windows 7 as it is just too much to look at.

I always have my Windows 7 theme set on Windows Classic in my own colors. And on windows XP,I have got the Windows XP taskbar and start menu-the modern start menu but a plain peach desktop selected by using the color picker. I don't use the default Windows XP wallpaper theme,I don't like that either. The other Windows XP Netbook has got the modern start menu but a pink desktop.

On Windows XP you can still have the Windows XP taskbar and start menu and have a plain desktop set any color you want using the color picker,if you don't want wallpaper. But on Windows 7 and Windows Vista you cannot have the Windows 7 or Windows Vista taskbar and start menu and have a plain desktop. It only sets to wallpaper unless you change the whole theme to Windows Classic. But then you get the Classic style taskbar and start menu not the default Windows 7 or Windows vista taskbar and start menu. I don't know why that is,but the strange thing is that you can still set any wallpaper image as you desktop background while on Windows classic theme just as you can do also on Windows XP.

Although it has to be said that Windows XP has a lot more theme choices than Windows Vista or Windows 7 does. But then there is more space on Windows XP as it uses a lot less ram,so they can afford to put more software and more features in.

But as I have got 4 Windows 7 Netbooks and 2 Windows XP Netbook it seems a good idea to make each Netbok look slightly different to the other Netbook. And having a software like Classic Shell does give you more choices. I already have got Tweaks log on screen change on all my Windows 7 Netbooks and Personalization Panel on my 2 Windows 7 starter Netbooks so I can add wallpaper. And now I have got Classic Shell but I have not installed any third party software on my Windows XP. As it already has a lot more theme options bundled in with it already that Windows 7 does not have. Such as change the control panel menu from blue pages to olive green or silver and change the control panel menu to classic view.Which they took out of Windows Vista and Windows 7 in order to slim it down and make more space.

But Classic Shell seems to be working for me. Andrea Borman.

Classic control panel is still in windows 7, under categories you select small or large icons and as if by magic the classic control panel is back.

These pictures are photos of my Windows 7 Netbook,taken with PSR,screen recorder that is included in Windows 7, for taking photos of your desktop. The first photo is of my Windows 7 start menu with Classic Shell on classic start menu setting. The second photo is of my start menu on Windows 7s Windows Classic setting. And the third photo is of my desktop also on Windows 7s Windows Classic setting.

And the fourth photo is of my Windows 7 start menu on Windows XP theme setting. Another feature of Classic Shell. And as you can see in the fourth picture it does make my start menu look like Windows XP also.

And yes, on Windows Classic you will see I have made the start menu items small icons smaller,making it look more like a list of pinned items. And I have also changed the taskbar and desktop to my own colors using the color picker.

But Classic Shell changes the start menu to the look of the original classic start menu,as you can see in the first picture. But the default Windows Classic theme does not do this, but Classic Shell does. So you can see the difference with using Windows Classic alone, and using classic Shell to get the original Classic Start menu look. And Classic Shell also has the Windows XP theme and Windows Vista theme. Which you also cannot get with the default Windows settings.

But on Windows XP and Windows Vista,the Classic Start menu is included, but it is not in Windows 7. Just the look, but not the original classic start menu.That is the theme is of Windows 2000,98 and 95, but the start menu is the modern start menu. Andrea Borman.

You keep saying the same stuff over and over. It is kinda strange. You are reading like a stereo manual in traditional Chinese. Reading your posts is to be like talking to JuJu Pedals. Just letting you know that.

Well,I took the plunge and I decided to install Classic Explorer, which is also included in Classic Shell. This puts toolbar buttons from Windows 2000 and earlier versions in Windows 7. But I am not sure exactly what benefits having the classic toolbar buttons have. I think if anything,they are more for decoration and also an easier way to move or look at your files without having to scroll down the toolbar. And also you can use the classic toolbar with the Windows 7 Explorer toolbar. As both features work together, and Classic Explorer also puts the classic toolbar in the control panel menu as well.

The first photo is of Classic Explorer in Windows Explorer on my Windows 7 Netbook. And the second photo is how it looks in control panel on my Windows 7. And you can also rename the files in Windows Explorer in Windows 7, to-My Documents and My Pictures as you can see I have done. But you can rename them anything you want.

You can also rename most files in Windows XP,but like Windows 7 and Windows Vista,Windows XP does not have a classic toolbar in Windows Explorer. This was in the earlier versions, Windows 2000,98 and 95,but was taken out of Windows XP.

Both the modern start menu in Windows XP and Windows 7 are very good and so is Windows Explorer. But it is nice to have a change and another option of changing your theme on Windows. And Classic Shell gives you that option. And I did notice that the classic start menu that is included in Windows XP does not have many choice of different settings to make it look as you want it to,as Classic Shell has. Andrea Borman.

Wait, are you saying that XP, Vista, and 7 don't have the menu bar on the Windows Explorer? Because they do. To show it you either have to A: press the alt key or B: disable hide menu bar. With XP, it is just there, and both XP, and 7 have it on the control panel as well. So in all reality I don't see anything that Classic Menu changed in your screenshots.

You also never reply to any of the other posts. You just go off on another rant about XP this and 2000 that. What is the deal with that? You sound like you don't really want to have a conversation about any thing you just want people to read what you type and not really care about learning anything or conveying useful information. On the other side, I'm not a moderator, and I guess it is none of my business what you post. Although a bit of friendly advice, start posting smaller posts with more pertinent information. Contrary to popular belief, larger does not always mean it is a better post.

You are right,Classic Explorer in Classic Shell does not change the appearance of Windows Explorer or control panel.It just puts the classic toolbar buttons into Windows Explorer that were used in Windows 2000 and before that. So I think the classic toolbar in Explorer is more for decoration. Or for people who used Windows 2000 and are used to the classic Windows Explorer that they have in Windows 2000,98 and 95. Where they had the classic toolbar. But it is nice to look at and makes a change from the default Windows Explorer.

There may be more features of Classic Explorer that I don't know about yet. And according to the Classic Shell website,it is easier to do keyboard shortcuts in Classic Explorer than in the modern Windows Explorer.But I don't use those anyway,I just click the setting I want with my mouse.

But it is nice to have a Windows XP or Classic Start menu and because I have the Windows Classic theme on my Windows 7. A lot of people will think just by looking at my desktop that I am running Windows XP,when I am not. And the classic start menu also makes a change of appearance from the modern start menu. Although I like Windows 7s modern start menu in Windows Classic theme of course, not Areo theme.

And as I have said before in Windows XPs classic start menu,it is not very customizable like Classic Shells one is. So when I said I was not keen on the classic start menu-I was talking about Windows XPs version of it,that is bundled with Windows XP,that has only basic features.

But Classic Shell has more features and gives you more choice of themes of the classic start menu. And if we are forced to go on Windows 8,which I hope never happens. Then we will need Classic Shell as Windows 8 will not have a start menu. But the problem is that Windows 8 may be so different,that Classic Shell and other software may not be compatible with Windows 8. What we we do then? Andrea Borman.